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Re: Yellow Horse and Little White Horse

Postby Trudi » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:38 pm

Just checking in as you are having posting probs Sheila...look forward to hearing your lesson updates when you can.
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Re: Yellow Horse and Little White Horse

Postby littlewhitehorse » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:41 am

Thanks Trudi, trying again today.

I wired up the fencing last time I moved it, the battery is low so it was only firing 1 in 5, and at first Fina was stretching her neck under the wire as usual. I was poopicking nearby. Suddenly there was the most enormous, sound barrier breaking, rocket launching, fart... as Fina reversed backwards and upwards at speed, like a Thelwell pony cartoon with all hooves going at once :lol: and shot away from the fence, so I think the fifth one got her.... she did a few circuits of the field and regarded the fence and the grass near it with much suspicion. I felt mean for laughing but it looked hilarious.

I could try putting a lower wire but it is a field I can't see, not near the house, and the deer pass under so there is more risk of them taking out the whole fence.
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Re: Yellow Horse and Little White Horse

Postby Trudi » Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:00 am

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Re: Yellow Horse and Little White Horse

Postby littlewhitehorse » Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:33 pm

Finally, some notes from my coaching with Jo last month. With hot weather, we did 3 hour mornings, divided roughly into an hour each of online groundwork, liberty and riding. Each thing we worked on was relevant in all "savvys". We did so much, so I'll just share a few of the ideas that I hope to take forward in the coming months. Part one, in no particular order:

Testing tolerance to pressure in a learning situation, the idea of seeing if Seraphina can be more tolerant to pressure so that I can ask with more energy without her becoming worried about it, when I want her to respond with more energy or greater effort. Playing with this to find out where her threshholds are, knowing that I can always lift off, and if necessary go back to less until confidence is restored. I realised that this is the difference from this time last year, our relationship is more solid, more confident, so more experiment becomes possible. She has become less of a nervous but willing pupil and more of a partner, holding a dialogue, with either of us able to say, "hey, steady on, watch what you're doing" or "that felt good!".

Ask yourself, is the horse needing consistency or variety (consistency repeating the task to be sure thay got it and are confident, or variety because they got it and need to move on because theybare getting bored :lol: ).

If you are always afraid to try, or to push the horse to offer more, you will never advance to amazing levels. Not talking about competitions or winning prizes, but relationship and connection.

Be particular without being critical. Ask less, expect more.

Responsibility of the horse to maintain gait and direction. We played with this on the circle, on line, using travelling circles, and also at liberty in the paddock instead of in the round pen, an indication of how we have moved on since last year. Doing circles at liberty in the rectangular paddock meant that Fina had first to understand what we wanted and to relate to the pattern she had been taught, the circle. At first of course, she does not understand, and Jo helped by being a fence, or I had to go and reconnect with Fina if she went to the shed or Lucie. What we looked for was Fina "owning" the circle, that is, to recognise the desired pattern and to seek comfort and confidence from it and maintain connection mentally with me in the centre. Once she did this, and I could remain neutral as she circled around me at liberty, maintaining gait (trot) and direction, I could start to ask for transitions or changes of direction. From this, I would then be able to add in other elements, move up to canter, more frequent transitions, as well as looking for purity of gait and rhythm. Lots to play with there! For the two sessions, we looked at changing direction at trot, using draw, without disengaging, and resending in the other direction.

Travelling circles is going to be a useful and exciting pattern which I have tried before but not developed, now I have lots of ideas of how to use it. This is on line, on the 22' rope, although as we progress, a longer one would enable us to do bigger circles in the big field. We set it up in the square field above the shelter, where unfortunately the bramble patches I keep meaning to clear kept snagging the rope :roll: but the idea is to send the horse onto a circle around me, and then I walk forward and around the field, as the horse circles around me, their responsibility being to maintain gait and direction until asked for something else. At first we are looking for comfort, confidence and consistency, of course it is a bit ragged at first until we establish the pattern. We started in trot, and it is so good to see Fina find rhythm and tempo, and really start using her powerful little frame. She was not even hot or blowing after our two circuits of the field, in circles at trot. This is also going to be something energetic I can do with her so she gets a bit more work than Lucie, and I can make a programme of it :-D
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Re: Yellow Horse and Little White Horse

Postby littlewhitehorse » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:40 pm

I'm not getting much horse time being so busy with the summer guests and gîtes, and it's either very hot or raining :lol: but I had a good day with the horses on Tuesday when a new friend called Irene came over for the day to play horses. She is holidaying in the area, actually 1h30' drive away, and she found me through the Parelli network. So she came and we played with Fina in the morning, while the rain cleared, then after lunch we went for a hack, irene riding Fina. By then it was sunny and steamy, and the flies were out again, and Lucie was a rather sulky reluctant ride for me so we only walked, and I walked most of it :roll: Irene was very nice and although quite tall, she loves Fjords and it was a very pleasant day. I hope she'll come again before she goes home. Somehow we forgot to take any photos :oops:
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Re: Yellow Horse and Little White Horse

Postby nicxf » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:09 am

Sounds like a busy time, glad you managed to have a horsey day off!
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Re: Yellow Horse and Little White Horse

Postby Trudi » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:31 am

Sheila I'm so sorry I seem to have missed your brilliant clinic time with Jo write up- sounds absolutely amazing.

How good to meet a new like mided friend- hope you can get together again before she leaves.
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Re: Yellow Horse and Little White Horse

Postby Chevalblanc » Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:18 pm

Trudi wrote:Sheila I'm so sorry I seem to have missed your brilliant clinic time with Jo write up- sounds absolutely amazing.


Me too! Some good things to try there, might have a go at some of this with Coral.....
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Re: Yellow Horse and Little White Horse

Postby littlewhitehorse » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:06 am

:lol: Thanks for reading and commenting, I often discover interesting posts much later! Also with Jo, we did lots of soft feel exercises and shaping, teaching it on the ground in hand and different ways to cue it so we could then look it at liberty and under saddle. I am playing with those ideas, and some are not new, have seen and done with Trudi, and with Susan, you all have the classical approach, just need to use more often, also straightness training the latest thing to be popular, and all very similar, but Jo also showed me some bits of interesting techniques from Silke Valentin, the German trainer who is in a motorised scooter, and so teaches shaping without ever being in the saddle, and Silke is doing a clinic, one of several in the UK in the autumn, at Jo's yard in Buckinghamshire, I am very tempted to go and spectate :hmmm: :)

By the way, Dan finally saw a specialist about the shoulder which has been hurting ever since his last meeting of the ground when he tried bareback riding for about 2 seconds... he had RMI... indicates the tendons were damaged long ago, probably during our renovations period. So Fina is exonerated :lol:
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Re: Yellow Horse and Little White Horse

Postby Chevalblanc » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:26 am

littlewhitehorse wrote: Jo also showed me some bits of interesting techniques from Silke Valentin, the German trainer who is in a motorised scooter, and so teaches shaping without ever being in the saddle, and Silke is doing a clinic, one of several in the UK in the autumn, at Jo's yard in Buckinghamshire, I am very tempted to go and spectate :hmmm: :)



Oooh, that does sound interesting, Nic would like to see that I bet!
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